[Bug 64502] New: Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core

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[Bug 64502] New: Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core

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            Bug ID: 64502
           Summary: Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core
           Product: Apache httpd-2
           Version: 2.5-HEAD
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: mod_authn_core
          Assignee: [hidden email]
          Reporter: [hidden email]
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The cultural significant of blacklists is based in racial descrimination. There
are no reasons to use these over their alternatives

As per https://lethargy.org/~jesus/writes/a-guide-to-nomenclature-selection/
and numerous other great resources, I request that we rename the
'blacklisted-ips' keyword to 'rejected-ips' or 'denied-ips'.

While this may seem merely symbolic to some, this kind of symbolic gesture
shows that we care about our community members more than we care about
particular historical keywords in our code.

Recommend that we add 'denied-ips' as an alias, and deprecate
'blacklisted-ips', and update the documentation accordingly, then remove the
deprecated keyword in a future release.

Thanks.

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Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> ---
I appear to have misunderstood the documentation. This is not even a code
change, but is just a documentation change.

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[Bug 64502] Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core

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--- Comment #2 from Stefan Eissing <[hidden email]> ---
"The cultural significant of blacklists is based in racial descrimination."

Do you have a source for that? I tried to find the origin of the term (the
practise goes back to the Roman Empire and further), but could not find any
ethnic origin.

Would be useful to know. Thanks.

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--- Comment #3 from Rich Bowen <[hidden email]> ---
I would encourage you to read the article I linked to -
https://lethargy.org/~jesus/writes/a-guide-to-nomenclature-selection/

Current usage is more relevant than ancient origins. Language evolves.

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--- Comment #4 from Stefan Eissing <[hidden email]> ---
I was curious, because for me personally there is no racial connotation in a
"black list". I do not think of "black" people when I hear the term. But I can
imagine a person of dark skin being uncomfortable about the term.

If a term is offensive to people, we should find an alternative. It's not a
mistake of people being offended.

That being said, maybe people would not feel so bad about the term if they were
not black listed because of their skin colour in the first place. That seems to
get some deserved attention at the moment.

- Stefan

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